Over the last two years, and especially since learning how to salsa last summer in Quetzaltenango, Guatemala, I’ve been really into Latin music.
Of course, I probably have really terrible taste in Latin music. In fact, I’m almost certain that I listen to the Spanish equivalent of stuff like the Backstreet Boys. But I figure my Spanish is perhaps at the level of a four-year-old, so if I’m listening to music for teenagers then I can’t be doing that badly.
Anyways, there were a few songs that I heard over and over in Guatemala last summer. (Including the overplayed but embarrassingly catchy “Baby Te Quiero,” by the unfortunately named Panamanian singer “Nigga.” Seriously, if you want to ever have a chance of breaking into the American market, why would you choose a name that is a racial slur?) I believe that only one of these songs that I heard was actually Guatemalan.
Ricardo Arjona is a Guatemalan rock singer who plays really cheesy power ballads. On field trips with my Spanish school last summer, we’d play some of his songs on repeat. They are the kind of stuff that I would totally scoff at if they were in English, but they got in my head anyways. One song in particular was really catchy – so much so that when I visited my wonderful friend Michelle (who I met in Guatemala) in D.C. in January, we belted out the tune in her car.
A couple weeks later, I looked up the lyrics.
I got completely offended. Here is the chorus of the song:
Dime que no
y me tendras pensando todo el dia en ti
planeando una estrategia para un si
Dime que no
y lanzame un si camuflageado
clavame una duda
y me quedare a tu lado
Rough translation:
Tell me no, and I’ll spend all day thinking about you, planning a strategy to get you to say yes
Tell me no, but give me a camouflaged yes. Leave me doubting, and I’ll stay at your side.
Now, being obnoxiously hyper-sensitive about this kind of thing, I went “Oh no! This song is just reinforcing the idea that women shouldn’t appear to eager. If we say yes, the men won’t like us, because they will lose the chance to try and conquer us.”
Blah, blah, blah.
I asked a good Guatemalan friend of mine, and he couldn’t understand why I found this offensive. Of course, this is the same friend who say’s I’m oh-so-much-more attractive when I’m being bitchy and aloof.
Of course, then I started to think about it. Maybe this is not a “Latin American” thing or even a “men” thing. I often find it off-putting if a dude is too overly-eager when I first meet him. “I’d never want to be part of a club that would have me as a member,” as the saying goes.
But seriously, give him a “camouflaged yes?” Should women really be expected to play those kinds of games?
Or maybe something is only meaningful if it’s difficult.
Now excuse me while I go listen to the song and enjoy getting annoyed yet again.
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Haha,yeah, the streams of courtship are a little different in Latin America than what I can jive with. In all my years in Latin American countries I have never once had a local girlfriend.
I suppose I am not the conquering type of fellow – if a girl seems uninterested in me, I walk away. But this is just not the way things work there.
My natural way of courtship just makes me look like a dork.
Though I do not deny the fact that this could be suiting haha.
Good discussion to bring up.
Walk Slow,
Wade
Posted 12 May 2009 at 7:48 pm ¶Circular Logic. Men act the way they do because of the way women act. Women act the way they do because of the way men act. My GF had no interest in me when we met (@ my best friends wedding with her sister). She thought I was a dork (smart girl, that one). She showed no interest, so I did not either. Could barely remember who she was (except the bikini). My freind, told her I was asking about her and told me she was asking about me. Took a while, but things happened. Not sure if we should be thanking him, or pissed at him 8^)
Posted 13 May 2009 at 7:26 am ¶arjona has much much more than cheesy power ballads… he writes lots of social commentary such as “mojado” (illegal inmigration) “si el norte fuera el sur” (north-south politics) “la nena” (kidnapping) and one of my favorite ones “quiero”… i am a huge arjona fan as you can probably tell… being annoyed by listening to a “sexist” catchy song to improve your spanish is not that bad, i guees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KuMgWKZ9TU
Posted 14 May 2009 at 8:37 am ¶wade,
I totally understand. game playing gets tiring. If everyone just laid stuff out on the table it would be so much easier.
bob,
what a funny story. guess it worked out well!
Reminds me of that part of the movie “amelie” when the main character tells two of the bar regulars that the other has a crush on them, leading to wild sex in the bar bathroom.
i think i’ve seen that movie too many times.
mario,
heh… Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the music… this song just sort of rubbed me the wrong way. I guess that “dime que no” is the only song that I’ve actually taken the time to learn the lyrics. I should take the time to pay more attention to the other songs.
Posted 14 May 2009 at 9:38 pm ¶ok, Caitlin, yes you are more attractive when you being bitchy.
Posted 17 May 2009 at 1:23 pm ¶Any way, i think we, men, enjoy more when we figth for what we like, and dont have nothing for sure, because that brings the best of us in pursuit of love and we will treasure that more because at the end, we earn it
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